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Old Mar-21-2010, 10:04 AM
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Arrow Dave Holland

I know I'll probably get shot down for this... but here goes anyway... is Dave Holland getting nearer to being a 'free man'? ...or has he already finished his sentence and gotten out?
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Old Mar-21-2010, 1:44 PM
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As far as i know Dave is out of jail,till this day he denied the abuse of the boy.I read somewhere he's gonna wite a book.
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Old Mar-25-2010, 8:50 AM
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I always hoped the charges were bogus, but we will never really know. I guess "guilty until proven innocent" has possibly taken someone's reputation and livelihood.
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Old Mar-25-2010, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by FCinnella View Post
I always hoped the charges were bogus..."

Same here, Frank, same here...
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Old Mar-25-2010, 5:48 PM
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Anybody can say anything about anybody...and then you end up with cases like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMartin_preschool_trial

I haven't seen the evidence against Dave, but I'm pretty sure this one in So Cal was just a total witchhunt.
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Old Mar-26-2010, 12:10 PM
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This is one of those taboo subjects that people just don't like to talk abotu or feel that etiquette should disallow talk about it but it is something close to my heart and will talk openly about.

I will say is that if he did the crime he has done his time. If he didn't do the crime then that's his life ruined. People who make false allegations of this kind and do ruin the lives of innocent people really need tro get a grip of themselves and think - what did I achieve from that? Boy who cried wolf syndrome actually deadens the hopes of anybody who has been through abuse for real as when you have been abused you don't have the confidence to air your voice as somebody took that away form you - when so many people are crying wolf - who will believe someone who is for real?

I'm not passing comment on whether or not I think he did or didn't do anything that was allegated. Abuse is wrong - false allegations are also wrong.

Something I would like to do as a future career choice is to work for the Criminal Justice Service and work as a counsellor of Sexual Offenders. It is true to say that a majority of abusers were in fact abused themselves and their behaviour is learned. There is a lot that counselling could offer offenders - with the ultimate aim of preventign reoffending and reducing risk to society. I'm part qualified as a counsellor and need to figure out how to get to that end goal where I would have to give up work full time to finish studying and put in volunteer hours but still need to pay the mortgage so it's a while off.

If I won the lotery I would set up a charity counselling service for survivors of sexual abuse and also invest heavily in rehabilitating offenders to reduce the risk of repeat offense.

(On a lighter note I'd also go to lot's more of Gelnn's gigs!)

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Arrow Dave Holland found dead

Sad news

http://loudwire.com/dave-holland-death

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Old Jan-23-2018, 2:23 PM
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I read the news on the Guitar Player magazine newsletter in my 'mailbox' just a little while ago... yes it's sad ...saw Glenn, Mel, and Dave 'in action' at Annapolis in '73! It's in my 'top five' of favourite concerts!
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Holland was a great drummer... in Trapeze, Play Me Out (Hughes) and Judas Priest...
my respect musically
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