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CHAT transcript - May 25th, 2005

Shirean:: Hi everyone!


David: Afternoon


chrisloeb: hi u 2


David: Hi Chris, nice to see you.


Shirean: Hello


chrisloeb: good to see you too


chrisloeb: Champions League Final is underway - Liverpool just made the 3:3 (after a 0:3!!!) this is crazy


David: Yeah, most people are probably down the pub today!


chrisloeb: I had a very bad throat infection for more than 10 days - so I'm home...


David: don't cough on us


Shirean:


chrisloeb: it's much better - I'm finally "free" tomorrow!


David: good


David: It feels like the lull before the storm as far as GH is concerned....'kinda like just before Christmas last year!


chrisloeb: Fused, and talkin' bout Iommi - I still have to get my ticket for the Black Sabbath / Velvet Revolver gig June 20


David: Is that local?


chrisloeb: yeah. I don't travel anymore to gigs - for now


chrisloeb: They play Vienna Stadthalle - crowd of 12,000 I guess


David: cool


chrisloeb: and loud


chrisloeb: Have you read Fedor's announcement at the GH.com board, that FFF will for now NOT be available via Mailorder - only at shows!??


David: Hi Brad


Brad: Hello


chrisloeb: Hi there


David: chris - yeah, originally it was to be made available online after the recent 'Soul Mover' tour, but I guess they decided against it for now.


Brad: Which is that?


David: Freak Flag Flyin'


chrisloeb: a decision I don't understand


Shirean: $


David: simple as that i think....assume they're not sure of the demand, is probably the issue.


David: obviously, there's a bunch of folks we all know who will buy it, but that might not mean a 1000 or more.....


David: and it's Glenn's dime, not a record companies.


David: all specualation on my part


chrisloeb: an experience from Incense & Peaches, maybe


Brad: How did Soulfully Live do in sales..Do you know?


chrisloeb: or the Christmas CD? The Video was sold out - how may copies were actualy pressed?


David: i don't know but I guess pretty well, at least the CD, the DVD sales may have slowed once word got out about the quality.....although now the new US version is available, that will no doubt change, as it's more less "fixed" up.


David: don't know those facts Chris, sorry.


chrisloeb: DVD fixed: yes, I kept watching that thread - since many have confirmed this I'm just waiting for my brother moving to Canada - he will hopefully send me a copy then.


David: it does seem a shame though, 'cuz you see all these things on eBay every day, and they do sell each time, so that's $$ that could be going straight into GH's pocket....but perhaps the production out ways the sales, who knows. I'm sure it'll happen once they figure out a way to break even or actually make some sort profit.


chrisloeb: and JJ's Album - same for that?? I'd love to hear that - big Yes fan, besides...


chrisloeb: eBay is a crazy place...


David: yeah, similar thing. We're hopeful that'll see the light of day soon though.


Shirean: JJ's cd is amazing!


chrisloeb: the thing that haunts me still most is, I was only probably a footstep away from those two CDs in Woergl - but they had already been loaded back into the bus.... together with a seriously sick group of Rock musicians


David: chris you probably know, but Brad, you can listen to some samples here http://www.ghpg.net/ctc/musicfromplanetmarsh.html


David: yeah, that sucks chris, i feel your pain!


Brad: Thanks, I'll have to check it out


chrisloeb: Tony, how are you!


David: oh and the FFF samples are here http://www.ghpg.net/freakflagflyin.html


Shirean: Hi Tony


chrisloeb: Good to see you!


David: hi Tony


tony g: fine christian nice to meet you hello everyone


tony g: how are you all


David: there's a big soccer match in Europe today, so a lot of Euro friends might be absent, although Chris is here


chrisloeb: keeping an eye on the Champions League final


tony g: FFF coming out soon?


David: haha, we were just talk'in about that


chrisloeb: and it doesn't look good (always the pessimist)


David: at the upcoming Euro shows for now


tony g: cool i really dont know anything about soccer other than the fact that the rest of the world loves it


chrisloeb:


tony g: too bad


tony g: i have to hope for hughes iommi


chrisloeb: still not very popular in the US, huh - your team did pretty well in the last World Cup!


tony g: i think England is going to play here


tony g: there was some talk of Beckham


David: yeah, but Beckham isn't showing up I don't think....


chrisloeb: this will probably an exhibition game


tony g: one day ill sit down and look at it and figure it out


David: His club team insist he has to be in their training camp or something....


David: Anyway, we just got the promo of Iommi/Hughes the other day, oh boy, it's HUGE !!


tony g: cool


David: Everything Glenn promised it would be.


chrisloeb: the samples were excellent


David: 3 or 4 songs stood out immediately and the rest took a couple of spins to really appreciate.


tony g: i know he can play with anyone


tony g: i like them all


chrisloeb: makes you compile a dream setlist for the Tour in your head too....


David: I would say it's more of an Iommi album unlike DEP which I thought of as more of a Hughes outing.


David: There are at least 6 new songs I'd like to hear live!!


tony g: i have to hope that they come here


chrisloeb: that 3 or 4 things happened to me with the Soul Sirkus album


Brad: Any news on that Iommi Hughes tour?


David: I think it will happen tony, not too worry, but not sure if it'll be this year, but fingers crossed.


tony g: wasnt DEP like a work in progress?


chrisloeb: David, which 6 on your list?


tony g: i know in the winter its cool


David: Wasted Again, Resolution Song, Grace, What Your're Living For, Face Your Fear, The Spell and I Go Insane


David: oops, that's 7 !! Maybe Grace could be cut....


chrisloeb: hope that Grace is not reading this


David: then 3 each from 7th Star and DEP....no Purple or Sabbath please!!


tony g: Dopamine is my song iommi guitar idea with glenns vocal idea


tony g: watch for that ax David


David: Yeah I know, but Grace is a song that's more more about a state of mind than a person, so don't mind saying "cut"!


David:


chrisloeb: from the old ones , I'd love to hear Danger Zone, Heart Like A Wheel and Angry Heart - oh and Seventh Star, of course

Shirean: Saviour Of The Real is my current favorite


tony g: maybe some with tony martin if at all


tony g: i have a dvd that i like


David: I'd like NOT to hear stuff we've heard recently, like Seventh Star and No Stranger To Love....this is going to be a rare tour, so bring on all the songs we haven't heard before live.....that's my hope anyways!!


David: of course, everyone has a different opinion on that


chrisloeb: CL Final will go into over time, 2x15 mins. now - still at 3:3


David: oh boy....time for a slash and another round (everyone's thinking down pub)


tony g: iommi guitar all turned up with glenns voice will kick ass


David: it will Tony....Glenn is in very different voice on Fused.....similar in vein to the last Voodoo Hill album.


chrisloeb: yeah, but I think, they will still do Seventh Star. Me too, I always like to hear rare songs, even bits of it at live concerts, yet that rarely happens


tony g: i know i read that iommi will play songs that he feels he must play for his fans


chrisloeb: I put the Voodoo Hill Cd away after two listens and played it again a month agao - again two times. Now I like it.


David: yeah chris, of course they'll do those ones, but there's no harm in hoping for something different, it's like when You Keep On Moving or Mistreated is brought out everytime.....good to hear them, but could quiet easily pass on them too......know what I mean?


tony g: once again another example of the creative genius of glenn hughes


chrisloeb: sure. Things like Medusa or Seafull on SLITCOA were a very welcome addition!


David: To clarify.....I'm not saying it's like the last Voodoo Hill at all, just that Glenn's 100-mph vocals are full on, which we last heard on that Voodoo Hill album.....so you won't be disappointed.....kinda like a 21st Century edition of 7th Star


tony g: i truly believe he could work with just about anyone and come up with something ggreat


chrisloeb: sorry, that was just a side note


David: Oh yeah, those 2 Trapeze songs - I will never tire of live...he performs them just a little differently each time, that make them still sound so fresh, just love it! And JJ is right there with him each time...great stuff.


tony g: cool


tony g: David still the same on jj website?


David: As far as I know it's still a work in progress....


tony g: damn, ok


tony g: this time im going to count the times iommi's guitar feeds back


tony g: end of the soccer game guys?


chrisloeb: not yet - still over time, still 3:3


chrisloeb: I hope they don't have to decide this in penalties, that's always a tragedy


chrisloeb: David, thanks for the two Video Clips (No Stranger and Pieces) - I hadn't seen Pieces before, only snippets of it in the MTV Special


David: yeah, sound quality wasn't too good on 'Pieces' but it the video itself is cool.


tony g: ok i need to see a glenn hughes concert!!!!!!!!


David:


David: with some luck we might see him this year in one form or another Stateside...


chrisloeb: David, you were at least at one of the Emerson/Bonilla/Hughes shows, right?


tony g: that would be cool too


David: Yeah, Shirean and I went to the Santa Cruz & San Francisco gigs....


David: Ed Roth was on keys


Chip: Hi everyone.


tony g: probably hughes iommi


David: Hi Chip


tony g: hi Chip


Shirean: Hello Chip - Is it HOT enough for you out Arizona way!?!?


chrisloeb: Hi Chip


Chip: Oh yeah...plenty hot!!


tony g: send some this way


chrisloeb: Ed Roth in Mark Bonilla's band (Dragon Choir?)


David: yep.....


chrisloeb: I didn't know that


David: Don't know if he did any studio albums wiith Bonilla but he was playing those 2 shows we saw....


chrisloeb: I have a pretty good audience recording of the Santa Cruz show, simply stunning - an official release would be much better, of course


David: Review etc is here http://www.ghpg.net/mbsf98.html and the LA gig is also here http://www.ghpg.net/mbla98.html


chrisloeb: I'm already checking the CDs: Keys on EE Ticket are handled by Bonilla, Keith Emerson and Kevin Gilbert (R.I.P.)


tony g: great what stopped them together guys? was it just an experiment?


David: Santa Cruz gig had all the hippies in the house for Emerson, not sure what they made of Glenn, although there were quite a few of us GH fans there too. He was big up here due to Hughes/Thrall and of course, Purple.


chrisloeb: yes I read your comments about ELP being big in the Bay Area


tony g: here too


David: I think Bonilla found his niche in soundtracks, TV+film scores.....not sure though....


Shirean: You can hear me scream on that one, I was after an Addiction song


chrisloeb: but Big Daddy gets a lot of applause for his unbelievable vocal vs. Hammond solo in Tarkus


chrisloeb: sorry Tony, writing away, not looking


tony g: i wish i could hear that


David: The SF "Tarkus" performance was truly remarkable....you can hear snippets on that page I just posted tony....


tony g: thank you David


chrisloeb: Tony, send me a PM


tony g: ok christian


tony g: why did they stop playing together?


chrisloeb: Ed Roth's not on American Matador either


chrisloeb: one of the eternal questions


David: must have just done the live shows then.....


chrisloeb: Emerson was supposed to do an Album with Rick Wakeman, many guest musicians included


chrisloeb: Glenn Hughes


chrisloeb: John Sykes


chrisloeb: Wakeman mentioned at one point that Emerson already had recorded a version of Tarkus with Glenn Hughes on vocals - that remains a mystery


tony g: with rick wakeman? that would have been interesting to hear


chrisloeb: yeah definitely - my keyboard hero


David: Bye Brad!


chrisloeb: unfortunately this seems to have been put on hold. Just like Hughes/Thrall 2


David: it'll probably show up in a few years....afterall, we have so much coming out from Glenn to keep us all busy until then!


tony g: i know you never know whats going to happen


chrisloeb: an unbelievable save from Dudek (Liverpool's goalie)


David: still 3:3 ?


chrisloeb: yes, still 3:3


tony g: everyone needs to keep some kind of nestegg


chrisloeb: and it's a fact that the fans always demand more than is actually possible to handle at a time, so things are being pushed back


Shirean: And Glenn is the "Master" at that!


Chip:


tony g: everyone needs a source of steady income


Chip: Just when we forget about these old projects...they'll come out.


chrisloeb: free kick for Liverpool now - this could be it


chrisloeb: oh nooooo - it's penalties


chrisloeb: Milan's goalie Dida (from Brazil) made three saves last time!


tony g: penalties can decide a match?


chrisloeb: unfortunately, yes


tony g: damm


David: well, at least we know where Glenn is right now....sat back watching the football


chrisloeb: I guess so


tony g: i just thought of that just now


tony g: he is still with iommi in europe?


Chip: I'm sure he's wishing he was watching the wolves though.


chrisloeb: sorry - I'm off for 10 mins


David: no, he' s back now, but leaves for Europe shortly


tony g: so you know where he is right now?


tony g: i dont like vh1 to much but it wil be great to see him on it


tony g: i hope this whole iommi thing really brings him over the top here


David: i'm sure we'll see him over here


Chip: Yes, I hope G gets a lot of US exposure.


tony g: i love my country but it is beyond dissapointing to me how real musicians are sometimes treated here


David: yeah, it's a sorry situation. There's such a monopoly to all aspects of the industry here, at least in Europe, although it's also hard, at least there are more options available.....


tony g: glenn should be able to tour across america to good crowds no problem but without backing?


tony g: monopoly is right


chrisloeb: LIVERPOOL HAVE WON IT!!!


David: final score?


tony g: but enough soapbox positive thoughts are always better


chrisloeb: 4:2 in penalties


chrisloeb: a crazy, crazy match


David: cool - hopefully will catch the highlights over here...


chrisloeb: so our friends from the UK will probably not join us here...


David: there not Villa, but it's always good to see an English team win when playing in Europe


Chip: Do you get Fox Soccer Channel David? I'm sure it will be on there. I think it was pay per view today.


tony g: which one did you want to win chris?


David: yeah, Fox will show the highlights later I'm sure...


chrisloeb: I was neutral, really. I'm more an observer than a fan


tony g: David, are you from england?


David: Yes, but been here 20+ years...


tony g: cool i thought maybe but didnt know how to ask till now


tony g: so when glenn goes to england its like a trip home for you too that sounds great


David: exactly...


tony g: Shirean too?


David: No, she's from here (SF), but obviously it's like a second home to her too....


tony g: sounds great to me


David: it was cool, we had Chip over in the UK this past February....he finally got his wallet out


Chip: My wallet's still empty.


tony g: i wish mine was more full let me tell you


Chip: I'm already itching to go back. We had a great time over there.


tony g: i would be going to the Netherlands next month


David: maybe we won't have to stray too far from home sometime this year


tony g: i bet you did


tony g: i know


Chip: Yeah, I think this year between the Iommi and gigs with Chad, shouldn't have to travel too far.


David: yeah, those lucky folks are in for a real treat, especially on that second show in Holland....


chrisloeb: I wish I had time to go to Holland - but then again - I don't travel to gigs anymore...


tony g: i know it would be great to see glenn with chad


tony g: i still feel for you on that one christian


chrisloeb: and the football match in Sofia is probably the most unusual gig


David: think it's the day after the last day of the season...it's in a stadium....


tony g: hey, their paying right?


chrisloeb: oh, I thought it was the match first and then the concert?


David: maybe Nikolo Kotzev (Brazen Abbot) will make an appearance...it's more or less in his backyard!


David: you might be right chris.....i'm not sure....


tony g: damm im depressed again


chrisloeb: and the new drummer from Sweden who looks like Zakk Wylde btw


David: i was very impress with the 2 Plankton albums, they're on a US label - Grooveyard Records.....the new 'live' drummer is with that band.


David: You should definitely try and pick'em up.....


tony g: scene


tony g: cool


Chip: I have one of those Plankton albums...very good.


tony g: easy to get Chip?


David: that new one by Swede, Tomas Bodin sounds like it mght be good too....with JJ on guitar....think it's out next month.....


Chip: I got mine off of eBay. Not sure I've ever seen them in stores though.


chrisloeb: I'll try - I have tracked down the most unusual releases in the past


chrisloeb: Tomas Bodin's first two were excellent - very PROG


tony g: damm amazon uk then


tony g: cool


David: http://www.grooveyardrecords.com/planktonhumble.html


tony g: i want JJ cd bad


tony g: thanks for the link David


David: yeah, hopefully it'll be made available soon..


David: here's the other link to their first album....


David: http://www.grooveyardrecords.com/plankton.html


chrisloeb: are they anything like Firebird?


tony g: the sound of his guitar on the samples is great to me


David: it took about 3 or 4 days from the time I ordered it.


tony g: ok


David: more bluesy and guitar oriented than Firebird....but equally good.


David: Firebird are supposedly working on their next record, have gone thru some personnel changes recently, which is why there is a delay....but maybe by year's end.....from what I understand.


chrisloeb: I really enjoyed their first album, the yellow one I mean


tony g: firebird? thats a new one on me


David: ahh...more music to checkout tony - you can pickup their albums at Amazon.com


David: http://www.firebirdhome.co.uk/


tony g: i always like to hear something new


Chip: Still have the Firebird video link David?


tony g: with real musicians on it


David: ummm..yeah, there's a couple in the Fan Forum isn't there.....


David: Here 'ya go


David: http://fanforum.ghpg.net/showpost.ph...33&postcount=1


David: and one another


David: http://fanforum.ghpg.net/showpost.ph...37&postcount=5


tony g: great


tony g: ill be looking at that


David: these links will be in the transcript....so don't worry if you didn't jot them down


chrisloeb: the contents of this board (and site) are infinite - that's so great


tony g: i know this is my favorite place on the whole web


David: yeah.... "Search" is your friend as I always say....we've tried thinking of ways to make things more accessible, but yes, we have been lucky to gather a lot of stuff....


Chip: I don't visit a lot of sites...but this one is definitely the best I've ever seen. Glad to be a part of it.


David: Thanks guys....


tony g: first thing i come home from work i look to see what on here


Chip: Me too tony.


chrisloeb: Me too. And during the last two weeks even more often than that


tony g: its easy for me thats why i like it


chrisloeb: it's really excellent.


tony g: not to knock glenns site but this is easier for me


tony g: id like to get graces axe and cut that ass that did that to glenns site


chrisloeb: yeah, those things make you feel really uncomfortable. Strange people out there.... better don't think too much about it


David: it wasn't "personal" - that hack has been doing the rounds....they were more likely targeting the hosting company vs. GH or Fedor - but that hosting company should have really "patched" the board months prior ..... so there bad.


tony g: prison is the only answer i can think of for them


tony g: i know it just isnt right to me


chrisloeb: maybe they were only testing those hosts?


David: they're just punk kids, bored with nothin' else to do....not a lot you can do....the trick is to keep everthing up-to-date.....sometimes it's a pain, but the day you don't do it.....you get hit....we found that out the hard way when we first started out and ever since, have kept things tight.


chrisloeb: sorry, I'm starting to think about it - and reading too much Dan Brown


tony g: anti virus stuff is essential


David: that's the least of it tony!


David: we switched to Macs last year and haven't regretted it one bit....


tony g: ive seen mine come on about 4 times and have breathed a sigh of relive each time


David: you pay as much for protection as you do for the damn PC....plus you have to do all the work....a Mac works out about the same price when you add-in all the PC extras....


tony g: iv always heard that about macs maybe one day


chrisloeb: I'm thinking about it too


David: I run a "virtual pc" on the Mac when I absolutely have to use a Windows program...so it's only a click away....but haven't clicked on it more than a couple of times so far


tony g: cool


tony g: damn


chrisloeb: I have a LAN connection - without a firewall I would be an easy prey...


David: that's a dangerous thing chris. hope you don't do any banking or purchases on that.....


tony g: you have a firewall right christian?


chrisloeb: I had my doubts to, but it has become very safe - and (knock on wood) - nothing ever happened so far.


chrisloeb: sure


tony g: cool


David: by the way, next month there won't be any formal "Monthly Chat".....next one will be in July......but we'll leave one of the rooms open should you want to see if anyone's visiting.....


tony g: ok


David: we should be all talking about Fused and hopefully some news of more gigs by then


tony g: fused kicks ass to me


chrisloeb: how long to go? is it 3 hours total? I thought it was just 2 - and it's already after midnight here


David: yeah, it's usually just for 2 hours - but we've all been yakking alot today - there's no limit, but we like folks to show up in a reasonably timely manner....so it's good to have some structure


tony g: i already liked tony iommi so it should be a great way to see glenn


David: as I said before, you won't be disapointed tony...it's the heaviest bass playing I think I've heard from Glenn....the drumming is awesome too. It's all good


tony g: i really enjoy glenns bass playing


David: H'll be going thru picks like crazy when they play live!!


Chip: Time for me to bail out of here. It was nice "talking" to you guys. Take care everyone.


Shirean: Bye Chip


chrisloeb: bye Chip


tony g: and of course he is talented enough to sing great at the same time


David: ok Chip......talk to you in July.....keep cool


chrisloeb: Glenn has always been underrated as a bass player


tony g: bye Chip


Chip: Later, guys.


chrisloeb: Just check him out play during Jon Lord's solo at California Jam - that's soooooo groovy - and so heavy. Not talkin' bout the hair


tony g: i remember watching it when it first came out


Shirean: Who won the match Chris?


chrisloeb: then in the 80s, I thought his playing became a little boring. Well, even John Wetton's playing became boring in the Eighties


chrisloeb: Liverpool 4:2 in penalties, Shirean


Shirean:


tony g: chris everything he did then got messed up


chrisloeb: didn't GH mention, that he began to take lessons again in the Nineties then


chrisloeb: Tony, I like the first Asia album - too much tension in the band ever to produce a proper follow up though

tony g: i got into listening to the bass by listening to chris squire


chrisloeb: and too much pressure from the record company


tony g: i liked the first asia too


chrisloeb: Here Comes The Feeling - a great song


chrisloeb: where were we?


tony g: heat of the moment for me


tony g: see all my music is in europe


David: Asia just played the UK in March with Barclay James Harvest in support....


chrisloeb: for me that's not Asia anymore. Hasn't been in 15 years. Wetton/Downes/Palmer is Asia


chrisloeb: it's going off topic again....


tony g: ha ha


chrisloeb: nice sound


tony g: this is another thing i like about this site people from all over the world can talk about cool music


tony g: great sound


Shirean: Yes indeed


chrisloeb: sorry, the clock says 0:30 - I'll have to leave for today. Tony, I'll send an e-mail soon - have you sent a PM? It was great talking to all of you - have a nice day in the US - talk to you later! See you soon! Bye


Shirean: Bye Chris, take care


tony g: ill send it soon chris great to meet you hope to talk to you soon


David: Ok bye Chris, thanks for stopping by....


tony g: damm 12:30 in Austria hes going to feel like hell tommorow


David: Think he said he was sick, so he's probalby off work for a few days!


tony g: thats too bad but some rest is always cool


David: Well, i guess it's time we close things out for this month. As I mentioned before, the next Monthly CHAT will be in July....Wednesday, July 27th to be exact....usual time....1:00PM-3:00PM PST

Shirean: Take it easy tony - glad you made the chat.


tony g: ok great to talk to you all im glad i got to get here this time


David: With some luck we'll have plenty of new stuff to talk about.....maybe a Fused listening party is in order


tony g: cool


tony g: bye guys


Shirean: Bye for now!


David: CHAT with you then
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" "Grace" should be cut."
"Uhhhhh, "Grace" is more a song about
a state of mind rather than a person."

Nice try, David.

So Shirean.........Where do you want the
"Harrison Soup"..... after certain popular body
parts get put in the blender, and pureed?
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Oh no...I guess David didn't learn his lesson after insulting the Italian meatballs....now he better grow eyes in the back of his head.....the better to watch for that swinging axe my dear!

C'mon now...he didn't say that YOU should be cut....it was really just a state of mind he was referring to....seriously...Now wait....put the axe down and step away from the computer....you don't to do anything rash....oh oh

THWACK!!!

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Originally Posted by captmidnite1962

THWACK!!!

I'll have you know, sir, that I never THWACK. Actually, you'll never hear me......heh, heh, heh.
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