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Old Jun-27-2010, 12:02 PM
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... and an offside goal for Argentina just now - talkin'bout ref decisions. This world cup seems to be getting more scandals than goals...

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Old Jun-27-2010, 11:54 PM
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England were absolutely awful!

Blame the manager if you want, i think his selections, tactics and substitutions were bizarre in the extreme. However, if Engllish players are as good as we are lead to believe, then their performance should have been a hell of a lot better yesterday!

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Old Jun-28-2010, 12:10 PM
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i dont know why people thought England had a chance of winning.
look at our performances over the last 30 years.

our last decent performance was 20 years ago when the line up was

1] Peter SHILTON
[3] Stuart PEARCE
[5] Des WALKER
[6] Terry BUTCHER
[8] Chris WADDLE
[9] Peter BEARDSLEY
[10] Gary LINEKER
[12] Paul PARKER
[14] Mark WRIGHT
[17] David PLATT
[19] Paul GASCOIGNE

Now there was some real world class talent in Gazza, Lineker, Beardsley, Platt and Shilton. And Des Walker had real pace - not like Terry or Upson.

as for the idiots saying we need an English manager to generate passion etc - didnt they say sack Taylor, Hoddle, Keegan, McClaren and even Bobby Robson?

We dont need passion. we need tactics and discipline.

they didnt complain he was Italian during qualification when they lost just 1 game.
and they didnt say change the system then either.

Yes he made mistakes like Heskey on for Defoe when Crouch hasnt even kicked a ball.
that is just plain stupid. Rooney should have gone off. you cant wait 4 games for him to spark into life.
Carragher, King and Barry shouldnt have been in the squad.

But he cant be blamed for Lampard's "goal" or the complete lack of discipline by our players having 9 in the German box for another pathetic free-kick which then led to a breakaway goal.
Losing Ferdinand was unlucky but he hadnt been fit most of the season anyway.

Remember, this is the same bunch of players who didn't qualify for the 2008 European Championships, just 4 years older. So Capello did well to get a bunch of failures to the World Cup Finals!

Harry Rednapp would be no better.

The FA is so incompetent it changed Capello's contract to remove a clause where they could sack him on the cheap just 2 weeks before the tournament began. Now he will get a 12,000,000 payoff!

they should back him and hope he has he guts to drop non-performers for our Euro qualifying games.

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Old Jul-02-2010, 2:34 PM
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what a day

wow -is diego forlan as good as i think he is?-i already know about wesley sneijder
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wow -is diego forlan as good as i think he is?-i already know about wesley sneijder

Has had a complete change around in 'fortunes' since he's been playing club football in Spain.Had a torrid time with Manchester Utd but now looks a different player!

Congratulations to Holland............a deserved victory I think (but why do they still allow Robin Van Persie take the free kicks? He doesn't even look bothered when the ball sails into row z!).
Brazil looked,well,just like Brazil only in small doses & some of their play harked back to the Argentina world cup 1978 when the physical play overshadowed the brilliance - must be something to do with wearing blue shirts

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Old Jul-03-2010, 6:37 AM
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Old Jul-03-2010, 9:29 AM
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thanks ben im trying to learn -i didnt know about him playing in the uk

You're welcome ,Tony ...........not many people noticed
He effectively 'replaced' Fernando Torres at Atletico Madrid after El Nino's transfer to Liverpool

It took him eight months and 27 games to score that first goal, to the extent that he was dubbed "Diego Forlorn" (courtesy:Wikipedia)

I don't feel quite so bad at England's departure having just witnessed the Argentinians torn apart late on by Germany

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I don't feel quite so bad at England's departure having just witnessed the Argentinians torn apart late on by Germany

Technically England are BETTER THAN ARGENTINA!

We put 2 past the Germans

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